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I kiss goodbye the howling beast... Aug 30, 2009 4:56:13 GMT -5

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Post by seadragon on Aug 30, 2009 4:56:13 GMT -5

Monotype 11-02-2003 07:48 PM
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i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me..

I'm not sure if we should dredge up or reminisce (sp?) but I found these and read them again....and I dunno thought I'd put them together again in a neat little bundle....

I'm quite sure I'll delete this thread. elliott isn't working on maggies farm anymore that's for sure. fvuck.

i dont think elliott is the webmaster of dreamworks these days

...i ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...maybe charlie's farm...i've already planned to put at least a song up...maybe more than one...SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS, RIGHT?...now who might that be? THIS MESSAGE COURTESY OF THE BLETHER, but written by (h)hhelliott.

...i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me...(not my lyric, dammit.)

love to you all, even YOU and YERS,
elliott

Monotype 11-02-2003 07:52 PM
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I've had a sick feeling for a long time, but you will see LP6, IN LEGAL FORM (not that I care if people bootleg it). also, thanks for the photo album of letters and 2nd double disc. some of you sing better than me, of course. this record is not being held up by my (quite good) management or, some kind of corporate crap. I'm getting healthy after a bad time. 2 songs left to pick now from 40. i haven't died, y'know? (wished I had for awhile.) THIS MESSAGE APPEARS COURTESY OF THE BLETHER, but is from (h)hhelliott (i am not the blether, but i know...them.) sure seems like a lot of people on this thread running around with arrows in their hats. love to you all, m'friends. peace, (h)hhelliott (elliott)

...I ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...

obviously posting this feels both wrong and strangely cathartic....one little phrase in there sits so uncomfortably in my head now.

Monotype 11-02-2003 07:53 PM
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i'm not a hero and you shouldn't be hated, but yes, e. you're completely wrong. sometimes i get TIRED. (no sarcasm implied) i slept on my f***ing arm wrong after 2 bad shows. should i have refused to try? apparently...to some...not in my opinion. i mean, if i'd cancelled with people already in the building...hmmm, same thread I guess...but i'd have felt like i let folks down without a try. performance minus risk equals BOREDOM for you and me. personally, i despise BORING PERFORMANCE. this tangled thread, however, makes me SMILE. it's my birthday today, i feel OK, so please don't infer any anger here, just a little clarification. perfection is not my ideal. it's an insult to the gods. love to you (i mean it) yer friend,
(h)hhelliott

NOT FROM THE BLETHER, but courtesy of...them, from (h)hhelliott (elliott)

...i ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...

Monotype 11-02-2003 07:54 PM
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of course without context these are strange little ditties in context and in response to certain things they make perfect sense, but you'll have to do without context for now.

Monotype 11-02-2003 07:56 PM
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the blether
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I just want to set the record pretty straight.You can believe this post or not but I speak the truth.
1.Elliott's hand is fine now.I understand your concern but it is okay, no permanent damage thankfully.He was not on anything,he was not fucked up.He slept on his arm for the duration of the flight and lost all feeling.It was totally genuine and terribly upsetting for elliott, I reckon you guys can understand that knowing how important a functioning hand is to a guitar player !!!He didn't want to let anybody down by not playing.In hindsight maybe he should have to stop all the rumours and speculations,however ,there would still be whispers as to why he didn't play.I guess it was a no win situation for him.He had made the trip and had obviously not forseen his limb going numb for several hours, who would have?Instead of speculating about his performance can you perhaps consider how courageous it was of Elliott to go onstage knowing he would have difficulty playing.He is a very honest person, that's why you all care for him so much and he didn't want to let anyone down as you all mean so much to him.I think you should consider what has just been written as it is the truth.

2.Elliott is delighted to have a manager as decent as Scott.Scott is in no way "mis-managing "him.They both have the utmost respect for one another .Scott is a fantastic manager and tremendously well respected within the music industry.He knows how Elliott works and let's him get on with it without interfering.A manger does not have to check in on his artist everyday, that's just bothersome and pointless unless there really is something to talk about that's important.He is available to Elliott 24/7.
2b.As for somebody commenting that Scott wasn't at any of the December shows, why should he have been? When touring an artist will normally have a tour manager, so why should the manager be there ......to waste money?? If Elliott had felt it necessary for Scott to be present then he would have been there, it's that simple !!

3.Elliott is still working on the album, is that not allowed?I do understand that you all want to have a copy and that it has been taking longer than "usual" but please be patient, it is definitely worth the wait.He knows you all want it to have been released 6 months ago but I know you don't want to put him under pressure to release just any old album.....yeah,I know even that may seem great right now but not really,eh?
Thank you all for your support, it really is appreciated.You all seem really nice and I've met a good few thousand of you !! Elliott is really lucky to have people like you to appreciate his music and stand by him(he's worth it).Don't worry, he's in several pairs of loving and capable hands.
Much love to you all

Anjy 11-02-2003 10:18 PM
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Thank you so much for that. Not having been around this discussion bbs at the time it happened, it gives me such a vicarious thrill to see these posts. I thank you more than I could say.

Queensgal 11-03-2003 12:35 AM
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This doesn't give me a "thrill" at all, sorry - it just makes me fucking sad, sad, sad.

I hate this.

sombre winds 11-03-2003 01:08 AM
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From August 2002. Is that right? I have those same posts somewhere. I wish I had the ones from when hhelliott first posted and was so funny and witty. Suggesting books for someone to read on the flight over here from England. That Elliott I would like to remember and those posts are the only time he showed to fans here.

anodyne 11-03-2003 01:15 AM
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I wish I had the ones from when hhelliott first posted and was so funny and witty. Suggesting books for someone to read on the flight over here from England. That Elliott I would like to remember and those posts are the only time he showed to fans here.
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Does anyone have those saved somehow? It would be really nice to read those. I missed 'em and never bothered to look them up, then they were lost. I thought there would eventually be more

Monotype 11-03-2003 01:58 AM
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This doesn't give me a "thrill" at all, sorry - it just makes me fucking sad, sad, sad.

I hate this.
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hey I realise that. it makes me fucking sad too because the elliott here is a fighter and defensive sure, but with confidence in where he's going and what he's doing, and now they have a different spin on them, but please I don't expect people to get thrills out of them or kicks.....oh contrare...

Monotype 11-03-2003 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by saydela
From August 2002. Is that right? I have those same posts somewhere. I wish I had the ones from when hhelliott first posted and was so funny and witty. Suggesting books for someone to read on the flight over here from England. That Elliott I would like to remember and those posts are the only time he showed to fans here.
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well we got to realise that elliott wore boxers and not briefs in those posts, every fans dream....

I can remember a lot of what he said but didn't save them, a board crash of sorts meant they are lost...., and that elliott paints a nice image of him, because (and I know I make him sound like a puppy here) he was very playful and kinda having fun with the spirit of things y'know....
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I thought of that as a glimpse into the "real" Elliott. Everyone who knows him personally talks about his incredible sense of humor and playfulness. It was such a different side of him for those of us who saw the public Elliott to experience. I think that's why so many here didn't believe it "sounded like Elliott" and was fake.
I still remember the smiley he used and him saying not to be scared of it

Anjy 11-03-2003 04:30 AM
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You know, I went back and read everything over very carefully...

And I want to say I'm sorry. I think I used a very bad choice of words. It *IS* so very sad at points, but very sweet too. I only meant it in the best way possible. I promise. I love him as much as anyone here. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn't meant that way. Only in the best manner possible.

sombre winds 11-03-2003 04:51 AM
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You know, I went back and read everything over very carefully...

And I want to say I'm sorry. I think I used a very bad choice of words. It *IS* so very sad at points, but very sweet too. I only meant it in the best way possible. I promise. I love him as much as anyone here. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn't meant that way. Only in the best manner possible.
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Anjy its ok. I think that many of us understood what you meant. Things are so messed up right now for all of us that some of us (talking about me and I imagine others) feel skinless and raw. It is touching to see this other Elliott and we're lucky that he shared some of that with us.

Queensgal 11-03-2003 04:58 AM
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sorry...

Sorry Anyj, I didn't mean to imply you were getting kicks out of it, please don't apologise, I know exactly what you're saying, the posts are great to read. Sorry that my post above came out sounding harsh...

When I said they made me sad, it wasn't because of what he had written above - but more for the fact that he'll never write here, or anywhere else for that matter, ever again. That just depresses the fuck out of me. It hit me, reading those... and so I'm sad.

I just wish so much this hadn't happened. But thanks for posting those, 'cause I've never seen them before.

Monotype 11-03-2003 11:23 AM
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it really is depressing Queensgal, it really is tragic, and I don't know how to get my head round this either......reading this only makes things worse I guess......:-(

but yeh Saydela it was a different side to him, and I remember his posts pre a san francisco gig asking us not to be scared of his long hair...., he did well to warn us...!!

sombre winds 11-03-2003 11:25 AM
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it really is depressing Queensgal, it really is tragic, and I don't know how to get my head round this either......reading this only makes things worse I guess......:-(

but yeh Saydela it was a different side to him, and I remember his posts pre a san francisco gig asking us not to be scared of his long hair...., he did well to warn us...!!
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Those are the posts I wish we could find. He wrote a couple of evenings during his last mini tour when he played in Portland and then Seattle for the last time ever.

shamrox 11-03-2003 11:40 AM
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the weirdest thing is that right after i heard he died, one of the first things that came to mind was how many people on this board were so quick to defend him whenever anyone said the word "addiction." how many newbies were shunned whenever they brought the topic up. i remember someone saying that maybe he's just "different now," like the way brian wilson has become.

i really don't mean that in a negative way towards anyone. it was just what sprang to my mind when he passed.

Anjy 11-03-2003 12:22 PM
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Thank you for understanding guys, I went to bed last night feeling like I'd unintentionally said a shitty thing and hoping that I didn't hurt anyone.

//I just wish so much this hadn't happened.//

I've wished this perhaps a thousand times over these last two weeks.

Anjy 11-03-2003 12:27 PM
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//how many people on this board were so quick to defend him whenever anyone said the word "addiction."//

I can totally relate to that though. We, as humans, tend to try and ferociously protect the people we love. That was natural.

I've belonged to a bbs for 5 years now for Mike Doughty (former singer for Soul Coughing, superspecialrock.com) and we did the very same thing when he was going through all of his addiction problems.

amy atomica 11-03-2003 07:33 PM
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Those are the posts I wish we could find. He wrote a couple of evenings during his last mini tour when he played in Portland and then Seattle for the last time ever.
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saydel, they're all in the message board in the sky, what with the great leveller that was the big blamonet server crash may 2002.

the woody 11-03-2003 07:44 PM
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saydel, they're all in the message board in the sky, what with the great leveller that was the big blamonet server crash may 2002.
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and that was painful for so many reasons :cry:

amy atomica 11-03-2003 07:59 PM
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and that was painful for so many reasons :cry:
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cos if it wasn't for that, you'd have 20000 posts by now:D

Mandrake 11-03-2003 09:56 PM
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hum...

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cos if it wasn't for that, you'd have 20000 posts by now:D
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Amy, I don't want to sound rude or anything - and I certainly don't want anybody to feel offended - but, according to my own calculations, he certainly wouldn't have gone beyond 18500 posts to this day.

I just thought that important issues like this should be addressed scientifically, as it's really no laughing matter.
:-p

sidenone 11-06-2003 02:22 PM
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i don't know how i overlooked this thread when it first got posted

anyways, thanks for posting this!!

so, the original threads are gone?

licksy 11-08-2003 12:51 AM
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nothing is gone (forever)

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..so, don't be afraid my posts, nice people! (I don't visit often) bye!
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Originally posted by whisperingbarfly:

BOXERS OR BRIEFS?

ahem, BOXERS, of course. OK, so long folks!
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licksy 11-08-2003 01:33 AM
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Profile for (h)helliott

Member Status: Member

Member Number: 6263

Registered: December 13, 2001

Posts: 23

Occupation: singer

Homepage: http://here

Interests: everything, except Albini's rants
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SarahC 11-08-2003 02:12 AM
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I find thid thread very comforting, but at the same time really sad....

i wish i could've told elliott how much his music effected my life, as I am sure most of you all do too.

It's cool to read things he wrote though.... thanks for sharing thoes posts.

hightowersmith 11-08-2003 03:20 AM
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Does anyone know what exactly the name (h)hhelliott means, or who the blether is?

Then q.

Hightower

hightowersmith 11-08-2003 03:21 AM
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And does anyone know the song references?

And can anyone differentiate for me my ass from a hole in the ground?

I feel clueless. So unhipster.

OK.

Hightower

kim 11-08-2003 03:31 AM
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:lol: If you're unhip, then I'm right there with you, so don't worry. (or maybe you should :eek: )
I don;t know what the blether means. As for (h)helliott, I guess that's just how he signed in? I'm so clueless, myself. What do you mean by song references? I'd clear it up if I could, but like I say I'm not so in the know...
:darn:

hightowersmith 11-08-2003 03:42 AM
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I'm thinking of this part in particular:

"...i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me...(not my lyric, dammit.)"

And also the reference to people "running around with arrows in their hats".

Maggie's Farm is, of course, Mr. Bob Dylan.

Hightower

Monotype 11-08-2003 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by hightowersmith
I'm thinking of this part in particular:

"...i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me...(not my lyric, dammit.)"

And also the reference to people "running around with arrows in their hats".

Maggie's Farm is, of course, Mr. Bob Dylan.

Hightower
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the howling beast lyric is dylan and the song idiot wind from blood on the tracks. (

h)helliott name was never explained, but 'elliott' and most of the names of that ilk were taken, and the blether which someone was posting under that alias on behalf of him a couple of times (though he posted under it too eventually) I always thought was a variant on blather....to talk endlessly or non sensically, I think there might have been another interpretation, but the haze of my brain forgets...

the arrow hats thing I think was elliotts way of talking, in reference to the fact that a lot of people were speaking ill rumours at the time......

ktothebbc 11-08-2003 04:50 AM
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Reading his words here on the board is almost more upsetting to me than reading his lyrics, because it's probably the closest most of us will come to having had an actual conversation with him, knowing how he spoke, what his personality was like...

Plus, I've been thinking about how he quoted the song Idiot Wind. It's such a fantastic song and it's easy to see why Elliott liked it. It seems to have a lot to do with the circumstances that caused him to post in the first place: people with arrows in their hats running around talking about him and his state of mind and body. If you keep that in mind, what he was going through at the time (I can't actually imagine) and then read the lyrics to Idiot Wind... well, damn, it's heavy stuff.

"Someone's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press
Whoever it is I wish they'd cut it out but when they will I can only guess."

Check em out in entirety: www.bobdylan.com/songs/idiot.html

Here's the verse he particularly quoted, speaks to the experiences he must have been trying to get through at the time:

"I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now I'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt I suffered nor the pain I rise above,
And I'll never know the same about you, your holiness or your kind of love,
And it makes me feel so sorry."

Elliott, dammit, I miss the hell out of you.

Sorry for the long post everyone, I'm just in a weird mood and this was on my mind. Had a rough day and I'm rambling. Thanks for reading.

XO,
Kev

licksy 11-08-2003 11:28 AM
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Courtesy of www.archive.org

Not all the links will work

but still.... check these out

don't be scared of my posts...

don't be scared of my long hair...

:cow:

sombre winds 11-08-2003 11:34 AM
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I remember the visit; and the earlier one which was as close as some of us will ever have gotten to see the Elliott that friends describe as very funny.

These posts here were written at a particular point. Maggie's farm was about his old agent- who he had just terminated with and who was involved with Dreamworks.

And the arrows were because there was a lot of conflict among board members here and he was commenting on the conflict among us- which was about whether it was ok to wonder about his drug use or keep quiet about it since he had denied it.

The blether- and Charlie would know- appeared to be his girlfriend of the time who was from Scotland and somehow that seemed to some of us a word she might use- or his sister or both.

And hheliott- someone at the time explained that the (h) meant something that made sense but I don't remember,

the christophe 11-08-2003 11:55 AM
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wow :eek:
thank you so much for posting the link.
i cant believ it was 2 years ago. I cant believe i dared asking him 2 questions (which he never answered btw...)
i didnt remember that people were so suspicious at the time. but well i was close to woody and he had all these IP intelligence telling him that at least if it wasnt elliott it was someone posting from where elliott was (including japan once i think... though i'm not completely sure of it...)
and well, these posts with paul newman, bayley, flips, demo, woody, amy, logan, pieter, gina, rae,.... they're just :oh:

Miss Morgan 11-08-2003 11:57 AM
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Blether is a Scots word. It means a talking, especially gossiping, (stoping for a blether, having a blether) or someone who talks insesantly.
If he ever read Alasdair Gray, the word shows up quite a bit in his books as I remember.

sombre winds 11-08-2003 12:03 PM
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I don't know how you found those posts from Elliott- it's so wonderful to see them again- few as they are. I thought they were permanently gone.

I remember that he wrote a couple of nights between the last shows he played in the Northwest. People were so convinced it wasn't Elliott because hhelliott didn't talk the way Elliott did. His playfulness and humor wasn't something that we got to observe that much.

So thanks again.
Now if we could only find the note where he was recommending good books for a plane flight

the woody 11-08-2003 01:17 PM
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yeah well i remember i was the only one who thought it was him... Pfff. People's reasoning can be so poor i swear :rolleyes:.

licksy 11-08-2003 01:59 PM
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looks like the last post I can find a link to is christmas eve 2001, but unfortunately the post doesn't work, it's just a dead link... *shakes fist at the wayback machine...*

from a (as in 1) basement

amy atomica 11-08-2003 02:43 PM
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yeah well i remember i was the only one who thought it was him... Pfff. People's reasoning can be so poor i swear :rolleyes:.
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:lol: woody, you just woke me up and i didn't even have my coffee yet!!

the grace 11-08-2003 02:46 PM
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who were you back then, licksy?

thanks for keeping the threads - its lovely to see them again :yes:

the woody 11-08-2003 02:52 PM
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:lol: woody, you just woke me up and i didn't even have my coffee yet!!
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I think history will remember one thing. Now what is it already, hmmm..... OH I KNOW! I KNOW! YOU WERE WRONG!!!!!!!!!

licksy 11-08-2003 02:57 PM
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I wasn't involved on the site then... I just tried a search with the wayback machine. Go to www.archive.org and try for yourself... type in whatever site you want and it will have archives from various dates going back a few years...
I saw him in december 1998 in dublin, ireland... it was on my birthday... he played again in september 2000 but i couldnt go because this daughter of mine...
www.hgc.ie/images/upload/lauren.jpg
was a wee thing back then... (neither of these dates have reviews in the shows section btw?

I used to lurk on the .net forum and registerd for tour date notifications which never came... can't understand how I didn't ever come here 'till... well, you know...

the grace 11-08-2003 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by licksy
I wasn't involved on the site then... I just tried a search with the wayback machine. Go to www.archive.org and try for yourself... type in whatever site you want and it will have archives from various dates going back a few years...
I saw him in december 1998 in dublin, ireland... it was on my birthday... he played again in september 2000 but i couldnt go because this daughter of mine...
www.hgc.ie/images/upload/lauren.jpg
was a wee thing back then... (neither of these dates have reviews in the shows section btw?

I used to lurk on the .net forum and registerd for tour date notifications which never came... can't understand how I didn't ever come here 'till... well, you know...
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we can search for anything - like all those lost threads :eek:

gorgeous little one you've got there

amy atomica 11-08-2003 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by woody
I think history will remember one thing. Now what is it already, hmmm..... OH I KNOW! I KNOW! YOU WERE WRONG!!!!!!!!!
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woody, i will carefully preserve the mythology. :-D

licksy 11-08-2003 03:12 PM
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You wont be able to find ALL the lost threads...

I guess it just archives at certain times so you've got snapshots of the site(s) at various times... then, all the functionality won't work, so though you will be able to see several links in the forum view, not all the links will work... c'est la vie, or as ned kelly may have said, 'such is life'.

Monotype 11-08-2003 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by woody
yeah well i remember i was the only one who thought it was him... Pfff. People's reasoning can be so poor i swear :rolleyes:.
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pffffttt to you...I quietly exuded my belief that he was who he said he was....., one doesn't have to go to the top of a mountain and bellow from his lungs....., rather he can murmur sweet prophesy.....

Canary Yellow 11-08-2003 04:05 PM
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Re: Courtesy of www.archive.org

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Originally posted by licksy
Not all the links will work

but still.... check these out

don't be scared of my posts...

don't be scared of my long hair...

:cow:
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Oh! how did you make this work? I forgot how the old board looked...I forgot that lynsey once changed her name to just *...and, I can't believe I was running my mouth about how frizzy my hair gets...:rolleyes:

the woody 11-08-2003 05:56 PM
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pffffttt to you...I quietly exuded my belief that he was who he said he was....., one doesn't have to go to the top of a mountain and bellow from his lungs....., rather he can murmur sweet prophesy.....

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That is true, and i remember it :-D, but then did you or did you not go down in the arena and defend me and your belief against everyone's ?

Understand that it then made me wonder whether you could have been lacking faith or... omg (covers mouth with hand) bollocks

:-D?

:-D

Monotype 11-08-2003 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by woody
That is true, and i remember it :-D, but then did you or did you not go down in the arena and defend me and your belief against everyone's ?

Understand that it then made me wonder whether you could have been lacking faith or... omg (covers mouth with hand) bollocks

:-D?

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woody, I am the courageous and brave type you must realise that, and will defend to my death and beyond that what I rightfully believe in....:-p

BUT.....the reason I never stepped into the arena, is that a GLADIATOR like YOURSELF doesn't need anyone stepping in and swinging their sword around manically. I was aware that it's almost an insult to you to attempt to defend you in this manner. It's like Dolph Lundren walking onto a Steven Seagal movie set, Steven would just look at him blankly and with bemusement, and explain in orderly fashion he can kill 1000+ terrorists all on his own, and make (usually chef related) quips in the meantime....., get out Dolph! :-D

:mdk:

sombre winds 11-09-2003 01:22 AM
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yeah well i remember i was the only one who thought it was him... Pfff. People's reasoning can be so poor i swear :rolleyes:.
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Not so. I was definite,

the woody 11-09-2003 01:26 AM
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Not so. I was definite,
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it is true. And so was demo a bit, and i think canary yellow and i dunno who else. Steve, and Steve, and all the people i told to

r-mutt 11-25-2003 09:26 PM
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this all just makes everything worse.
but i cant help reading.

joely 05-14-2004 04:28 AM
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i was a member of the hellfire website
before i joined sweetaddy, havent been there in a long time, not sure if he had left thier manangement team

thisismark 05-14-2004 06:18 AM
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maggie's farm is one of my favorite bob dylan songs... he was human after all...

it did feel good to read it.

Monotype 05-24-2004 11:03 PM
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Super Martian Robot Girl 05-25-2004 12:43 AM
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time is so funny.
it doesn't seem so long ago,
but then it does.

sombre winds 05-25-2004 09:00 AM
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i was a member of the hellfire website
before i joined sweetaddy, havent been there in a long time, not sure if he had left thier manangement team
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He posted on hellfire too- but I don't think anyone believed it was him. So did Sam- ditto.

eepee 05-25-2004 10:12 AM
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funny, i read those posts of (h)helliott's last year when someone linked them up, and for some reason, i thought by the 'lots of arrows in hats' reference, that elliott just noticed many people using a smiley of a cowbow wearing a ten gallon hat with an arrow through it. now i'm not sure why i thought that, i don't see a cowboy smiley...weird where the hell i came up with that idea.

hmm...smilies with hats

:wizard: :santa: :party: :pimp: :tacos: :hat:
and technically:
:deboned:

why did i think there was a cowboy one? i'm bonkers. well anyway, his way of describing the mudslinging or whatever is clever. i guess that went over my head but i thought it was cute when i believed he was just talking about a (nonexistent)cowboy smiley.

prettypistol27 05-27-2004 02:50 AM
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:lol: How I wish I was here back in the day!

Monotype 05-27-2004 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by number nine
He posted on hellfire too- but I don't think anyone believed it was him. So did Sam- ditto.
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really I don't think I saw that....? as for Sam I hope you don't mean the post that was up signed as Sam Coomes claiming elliott needed help and wasn't returned his phonecalls, because I don't believe that was Sam for a minute. someone so gracious as to not not talk to the press after mr smiths death, certainly in life wouldn't post details of his addiction on a discussion forum, and tag on an advertisement for his latest record too, that seemed clearly a hoax...

sombre winds 05-27-2004 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by Monotype
really I don't think I saw that....? as for Sam I hope you don't mean the post that was up signed as Sam Coomes claiming elliott needed help and wasn't returned his phonecalls, because I don't believe that was Sam for a minute. someone so gracious as to not not talk to the press after mr smiths death, certainly in life wouldn't post details of his addiction on a discussion forum, and tag on an advertisement for his latest record too, that seemed clearly a hoax...
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I know that everyone thought it was a hoax. Just as people here wouldn't have believed hhelliott if Charlie and Woody weren't so convinced. I don't think Elliott did or he wouldn't have dug it out of oblivion to respond to it. Sam is brilliant and if he wanted to send a message to Elliott, couldn't reach him in any other way and didn't want anyone but Elliott to know it was truly him- that's exactly what he would have written. This was on the board at a time when many people - or at least many outsiders- didn't know about Elliott's drug use and didn't know he wasn't talking to old friends. One of the reason's people were convinced it wasn't Sam was because they didn't believe he'd need to resort to a board to send Elliott a message. But at that time, that was the only way. It was also posted when a musician had just died.

prettypistol27 05-27-2004 05:06 PM
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That was cool of Sam, but for a lot of reasons it makes me sad

two-tts-too 06-22-2004 08:25 AM
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is it too late to post here?

Woody, did elliott ever meet you in (Paris) ?

sombre winds 06-22-2004 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by two-tts-too
is it too late to post here?

Woody, did elliott ever meet you in (Paris) ?
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Parliament of Fowls 06-22-2004 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by number nine
I know that everyone thought it was a hoax. Just as people here wouldn't have believed hhelliott if Charlie and Woody weren't so convinced. I don't think Elliott did or he wouldn't have dug it out of oblivion to respond to it. Sam is brilliant and if he wanted to send a message to Elliott, couldn't reach him in any other way and didn't want anyone but Elliott to know it was truly him- that's exactly what he would have written. This was on the board at a time when many people - or at least many outsiders- didn't know about Elliott's drug use and didn't know he wasn't talking to old friends. One of the reason's people were convinced it wasn't Sam was because they didn't believe he'd need to resort to a board to send Elliott a message. But at that time, that was the only way. It was also posted when a musician had just died.
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that wasn't sam, the record advertisement at the end was too ridiculous, and sam had more tact than that. also, he seemed to kind of mind his own business about elliott for the most part after 2000. we can't assume everyone who claims to be a well known musician is actually who they say they are just cos in one instance a poster claiming to be elliott was actually elliott. there have been many imposters and trolls here over the years. the shocking part was that this one was for real.

i understand i'm replying to a post that's 7 months old

sombre winds 06-22-2004 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by 6 inches
that wasn't sam, the record advertisement at the end was too ridiculous, and sam had more tact than that. also, he seemed to kind of mind his own business about elliott for the most part after 2000. we can't assume everyone who claims to be a well known musician is actually who they say they are just cos in one instance a poster claiming to be elliott was actually elliott. there have been many imposters and trolls here over the years. the shocking part was that this one was for real.

i understand i'm replying to a post that's 7 months old

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What's interesting about the "sam hoax" is that after a certain point the message was no longer accessible via search. It disappeared into the system. And then Elliott dug it out of oblivion and responded to it. He must have seen it on the board when it was posted because he went to great lengths to retrieve it several months later.

I think it was Sam exactly because he had too much tact to put that record ad at the end.

the woody 06-22-2004 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by two-tts-too
is it too late to post here?

Woody, did elliott ever meet you in (Paris) ?
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I dont think he ever came back to paris after this one time when he said he would .

oh boy i wanted to go shake his hand.

Chunk 06-22-2004 04:28 PM
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what did elliott say in response to the "sam hoax"?

two-tts-too 06-23-2004 06:21 AM
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I dont think he ever came back to paris after this one time when he said he would .

oh boy i wanted to go shake his hand.
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hmm.. that is too bad.

solveig 01-21-2005 05:04 PM
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Dead Pilot 07-15-2005 06:56 AM
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Re: Courtesy of www.archive.org

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Originally posted by licksy
Not all the links will work

but still.... check these out

don't be scared of my posts...

don't be scared of my long hair...

:cow:
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They dont work for me. Could anyone be so kind as to print out what he said here in a post?

joely 07-15-2005 06:59 AM
________________________________________wow this is an oldie

elisabeth 07-15-2005 02:25 PM
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candylion 07-15-2005 03:28 PM
________________________________________wow... i remember this thread.

revgoozen 07-15-2005 06:51 PM
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these quotes were from the thread that got me posting here to begin with... what odd memories. mike mckusker stepped up to welcome me despite the fact that several other people were taking pride in taking shots at me. things haven't changed much for newbies around here.

ParentheticalThought 07-16-2005 01:25 AM
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Re: Re: Courtesy of www.archive.org

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Originally posted by lift
They dont work for me. Could anyone be so kind as to print out what he said here in a post?
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THIS IS MESSY AND OUT OF ORDER BUT HERE MOST OF THEM ARE. THE STUFF IN QUOTES WAS WRITTEN BY OTHER POSTERS AND ES RESPONDED:

"i dont think elliott is the webmaster of dreamworks these days

"

...i ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...maybe charlie's farm...i've already planned to put at least a song up...maybe more than one...SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS, RIGHT?...now who might that be? THIS MESSAGE COURTESY OF THE BLETHER, but written by (h)hhelliott.

...i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me...(not my lyric, dammit.)

love to you all, even YOU and YERS,
elliott

"i dunno its sad really. i have this sick feeling that we will not see the new album, in legal form. (not gonna start a bootlegging argument) But i hope we do. even if its the last one, i hope its a blaze of glory (i mean retiring not anything else)"

I've had a sick feeling for a long time, but you will see LP6, IN LEGAL FORM (not that I care if people bootleg it). also, thanks for the photo album of letters and 2nd double disc. some of you sing better than me, of course. this record is not being held up by my (quite good) management or, some kind of corporate crap. I'm getting healthy after a bad time. 2 songs left to pick now from 40. i haven't died, y'know? (wished I had for awhile.) THIS MESSAGE APPEARS COURTESY OF THE BLETHER, but is from (h)hhelliott (i am not the blether, but i know...them.) sure seems like a lot of people on this thread running around with arrows in their hats. love to you all, m'friends. peace, (h)hhelliott (elliott)

...I ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...

i'm not a hero and you shouldn't be hated, but yes, e. you're completely wrong. sometimes i get TIRED. (no sarcasm implied) i slept on my f***ing arm wrong after 2 bad shows. should i have refused to try? apparently...to some...not in my opinion. i mean, if i'd cancelled with people already in the building...hmmm, same thread I guess...but i'd have felt like i let folks down without a try. performance minus risk equals BOREDOM for you and me. personally, i despise BORING PERFORMANCE. this tangled thread, however, makes me SMILE. it's my birthday today, i feel OK, so please don't infer any anger here, just a little clarification. perfection is not my ideal. it's an insult to the gods. love to you (i mean it) yer friend,
(h)hhelliott

NOT FROM THE BLETHER, but courtesy of...them, from (h)hhelliott (elliott)

...i ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...

the blether
Guest

I just want to set the record pretty straight.You can believe this post or not but I speak the truth.
1.Elliott's hand is fine now.I understand your concern but it is okay, no permanent damage thankfully.He was not on anything,he was not fucked up.He slept on his arm for the duration of the flight and lost all feeling.It was totally genuine and terribly upsetting for elliott, I reckon you guys can understand that knowing how important a functioning hand is to a guitar player !!!He didn't want to let anybody down by not playing.In hindsight maybe he should have to stop all the rumours and speculations,however ,there would still be whispers as to why he didn't play.I guess it was a no win situation for him.He had made the trip and had obviously not forseen his limb going numb for several hours, who would have?Instead of speculating about his performance can you perhaps consider how courageous it was of Elliott to go onstage knowing he would have difficulty playing.He is a very honest person, that's why you all care for him so much and he didn't want to let anyone down as you all mean so much to him.I think you should consider what has just been written as it is the truth.

2.Elliott is delighted to have a manager as decent as Scott.Scott is in no way "mis-managing "him.They both have the utmost respect for one another .Scott is a fantastic manager and tremendously well respected within the music industry.He knows how Elliott works and let's him get on with it without interfering.A manger does not have to check in on his artist everyday, that's just bothersome and pointless unless there really is something to talk about that's important.He is available to Elliott 24/7.
2b.As for somebody commenting that Scott wasn't at any of the December shows, why should he have been? When touring an artist will normally have a tour manager, so why should the manager be there ......to waste money?? If Elliott had felt it necessary for Scott to be present then he would have been there, it's that simple !!

ParentheticalThought 07-16-2005 01:26 AM
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3.Elliott is still working on the album, is that not allowed?I do understand that you all want to have a copy and that it has been taking longer than "usual" but please be patient, it is definitely worth the wait.He knows you all want it to have been released 6 months ago but I know you don't want to put him under pressure to release just any old album.....yeah,I know even that may seem great right now but not really,eh?
Thank you all for your support, it really is appreciated.You all seem really nice and I've met a good few thousand of you !! Elliott is really lucky to have people like you to appreciate his music and stand by him(he's worth it).Don't worry, he's in several pairs of loving and capable hands.
Much love to you all

ParentheticalThought 07-16-2005 01:29 AM
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Profile for (h)helliott

Member Status: Member

Member Number: 6263

Registered: December 13, 2001

Posts: 23

Occupation: singer

Homepage: http://here

Interests: everything, except Albini's rants

ParentheticalThought 07-16-2005 01:30 AM
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...I don't visit (Paris) that often! (Next spring?)

Originally posted by waifstar:
how do you feel about high fives?
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up high, down low...

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Originally posted by amy atomica:
You're really freaking some people out!!!
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don't be afraid of freaking some people out...

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Originally posted by amy atomica:
What are you doing up so early?
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insomnia
I am afraid of insomnia.

don't let that little blue grouch frighten you...

I'm sorry, I thought I'd scared you off with the little blue grouch. He's an insomniac, I'm certain of it. And he's just run out of klonopin, dammit. (legal klonopin, of course)

...but enough about drugs. I myself prefer the green, skeptical fellow. Not as grouchy, just a little unsure about the validity of this...questions, questions, hmmm...yes, well. He, or maybe she, is more like it, yes, I say, what-what.

...so, bye (for now) nice people...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

...I can post to myself this way...I suppose...but, yet...then again, no. Sleep, I gotta try at least, but - wait a minute: that little blue grouch is laughing at me! Well...I'll have to sort him out later, that, that...grouch! Oh, the NERVE of that scowling fool, thinking he can just bark at me to use CAPITALS (which are highly irritating, I'm sorry)
See, insomnia.
Originally posted by whisperingbarfly:
oh now now Woody!
you can't possibly believe this poster!
I bet anyone on this board a hundred bucks it's not him
no $1,000 it's not him!

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...it's unwise to gamble, unless you have a system...

...ask me, the imposter, a question, won't you? don't be afraid of the imposter...he's just having some fun speaking with some nice folks, no harm in that, is there?
[ December 18, 2001: Message edited by: (h)helliott ]
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Originally posted by flipsgurl:
why do birds suddenly appear, every time you are near?
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just like me, they long to be close to you
-the Carpenters
I have to try to sleep again, and then again, then again and again until it's back to the "Great American Music Hall."

...so, don't be afraid my posts, nice people! (I don't visit often) bye!

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Originally posted by whisperingbarfly:
BOXERS OR BRIEFS?
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ahem, BOXERS, of course. OK, so long folks!

TheREALClintEastwood 07-16-2005 01:50 AM
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So what was Ellitoo's screen name? Just "Elliott".... and I'm actually surprised he heard some of the covers you guys did....

last call

twotimes 07-16-2005 05:27 AM
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Thank you for posting these, I had never had a chance to see Elliott's late night dialogue. The little blue grouch has scowled at me too.
Does anyone have Elliott's response to the Sam thread saved? I didn't know that one existed. Thanks.

ParentheticalThought 07-16-2005 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by TheREALClintEastwood
So what was Ellitoo's screen name? Just "Elliott".... and I'm actually surprised he heard some of the covers you guys did....

last call
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Elliott's screen name was (h)helliott (see my third post above). We think the Blether was his girlfriend at the time, Valerie, tho some people think it could have been his sister Ashley. Whoever it was signed on as a guest under Elliott's screen name.

Sorry this stuff is such a mess. I've been having trouble posting so I got it on there as quick as I could before my computer ate it and I had to start again. I don't know why that emoticon is in my first post. I didn't put it there and can't get rid of it.

space girl lost 07-16-2005 01:08 PM
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i never saw some of those later ones.
little blue grouch? eeeeh?

too bad about the archive.org ones. they worked a couple months back i thought.

TheREALClintEastwood 07-16-2005 07:10 PM
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this is real sweet addy history. it should be all put at the top of the page... everything he ever posted. Moderators, what do you say?

ktothebbc 07-16-2005 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by space girl lost
i never saw some of those later ones.
little blue grouch? eeeeh?
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I think he was referring to different smilies.

flappersalley 07-16-2005 10:03 PM
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Where the hell is Demo?

Some of these posts remind me of some of the folks on the board, and I wonder if they are still alive, too.

I like the idea that he heard the compilation CD, and that he was entertained by them.

twotimes 07-17-2005 08:39 PM
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I really like the idea of having Elliott's posts archived on Sweetaddy! Perhaps we could collect all the confirmed Elliott postings and sticky them to the top of this discussion board, or maybe Charlie might even provide a link to them on his site. At any rate, if anyone has all of Elliott's postings, please pm me and we'll get something together. Thanks.

space girl lost 07-17-2005 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by ktothebbc
I think he was referring to different smilies.
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i figured. was just wondering which one was the blue grouch and figured they might have been different at the time. :-o

lisa 07-25-2005 08:06 AM
________________________________________bumped for indie evan and lady nobody.

honey moon 07-25-2005 10:56 AM
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I love this thread. Elliott's posts definitely need to be preserved forever :heart:

Ian 07-25-2005 11:06 AM
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I remember this. I didn't post much but kinda assumed (first time round) was a hoax. Remember reading the second ones.

Also remember being sure that Sam Coomes post was a hoax. Was it actually real? It couldn't be. And di elliott actually respond to it? I think not. Elliott played with Sam in late 2001 right?

tiah 08-29-2005 07:02 AM
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i remember those posts...even though it is strange to reread them now,steve, there is soemthing in seeing them again...

sombre winds 08-29-2005 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Ian
I remember this. I didn't post much but kinda assumed (first time round) was a hoax. Remember reading the second ones.

Also remember being sure that Sam Coomes post was a hoax. Was it actually real? It couldn't be. And di elliott actually respond to it? I think not. Elliott played with Sam in late 2001 right?
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He really did respond to it. On the flaming lips hellfire back when Elliott's manager was their manager. I think I copied it and maybe I can find it. It was strange because I had tried to recheck for the "sam" post and it had completely disappeared until the response.
The original "sam" one was written at a time when Elliott was badly into drugs - even though we didn't know it- and also Elliott was not responding to phone calls or contact attempts from old friends. People thought it was a hoax not just because of the ad which I think was a way to sidetrack people but also because they figured that Sam would be able to get hold of Elliott. But he couldn't.
What's sad is that I don't think Elliott got a chance to reconnect with Sam before he died. So if that was Sam and Elliott then that was there last interaction.
And the last Elliott played with Sam was in Dec 2000 I think.

tiah 08-29-2005 04:55 PM
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i don't remember that "high five" one though!

reading that right now made me smile.

anneofthekrisspecial 10-11-2005 03:26 AM
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Dasha_Bah_Bah... 10-11-2005 03:49 AM
________________________________________Thanks for putting these up:heart:

bumbletort 10-11-2005 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by hightowersmith
Does anyone know what exactly the name (h)hhelliott means, or who the blether is?

Then q.

Hightower
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Thank God somebody finally had the guts to throw themselves on that grenade.

I would have done it, but I didn't want to lose what few cool points are in my possession.

Blether. Could be wordplay on 'blather' and the 'ether.' The old catchphrase 'messages coming through the ether' from radio times, back when they thought there was an actual 'ether' that things had to be transmitted through. But the expression survived....

I'm thinking blether is Elliottese for the barely to be trusted medium of the internet...Blamonet may have furthered this.

Then again, I could be full of balloon juice and in possession of fewer points of cool than when I began this midnight ramble.

((h)hhelliott, of course, is dealt with easily: I've not the foggiest (apart from 'hell'))

meepmeep 10-11-2005 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by bumbletort
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Blether. Could be wordplay on 'blather' and the 'ether.' The old catchphrase 'messages coming through the ether' from radio times, back when they thought there was an actual 'ether' that things had to be transmitted through. But the expression survived....
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I could easily be wrong about this but I seem to remember that his gf at the time was Irish or Scottish & "blether" is some expression used by Irish or Scottish folk. So the idea is that the 'Blether' posting on Elliott's behalf was his Gf---Valerie?

Dead Pilot 10-11-2005 06:28 AM
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Pretty sure "Blether" is a Welsh (?) term for "ranter" or something along those lines.

I dont get the whole "Sam" thing. What happened?

Molly! 03-04-2006 04:27 AM
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I'd like to know the answer to Idiot Kid's question... so ...

BUMP!!

seadragon
New Monkey

Posts: 40

I kiss goodbye the howling beast... Aug 30, 2009 4:57:30 GMT -5

Quote

Post by seadragon on Aug 30, 2009 4:57:30 GMT -5

sombre winds 03-04-2006 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by meepmeep
I could easily be wrong about this but I seem to remember that his gf at the time was Irish or Scottish & "blether" is some expression used by Irish or Scottish folk. So the idea is that the 'Blether' posting on Elliott's behalf was his Gf---Valerie?
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Yes. And then Elliott posted under that name. It was Valerie but I think it was Valerie and Ashley who wrote those initial posts.

As for the ((h)helliott, that's more complicated. It was a pun of some kind. Someone who is better with smilies may be able to translate it. (h) means something. But where does (h)hhelliott come from?

As for the Sam stuff, isn't it discussed somewhere in here?

Summergirllv 03-04-2006 06:04 PM
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this thread title makes me cry and smile at once.

Fluke 03-04-2006 06:28 PM
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in msn (h) is he smiley with sunglasses... i very much doubt that's it though...
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Originally Posted by Summergirllv
this thread title makes me cry and smile at once.
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thats hard to do... i fidn similing the best option...

Summergirllv 03-04-2006 06:31 PM
________________________________________i cry alot :snail:

Fluke 03-04-2006 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Summergirllv
i cry alot :snail:
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:heart:

sometimes simileys say more then words.... nhmm.

solveig 03-23-2006 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hikat
time is so funny.
it doesn't seem so long ago,
but then it does.
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suspended time
unresolved

Heliphyneau 03-23-2006 06:50 PM
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ripples still traveling
out from the center

:heart:

I think this ought to be in Memorial, so that it doesn't fall off the edge . . .

Summergirllv 03-23-2006 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by solveig
suspended time
unresolved
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things i'd have to forget

Super Martian Robot Girl 04-30-2006 04:04 AM
________________________________________(h)hhello. found it.

Needs Wasabi 04-30-2006 04:09 AM
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This thread should be put in the memorial forum so we don't lose it. :heart:

solveig 04-30-2006 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hikat
(h)hhello. found it.
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Molly! 04-30-2006 08:24 PM
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i wouldn't be surprised if this is the little blue grouch himself (stolen off the archive.org addy):

sombre winds 05-01-2006 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by fake concerns
i wouldn't be surprised if this is the little blue grouch himself (stolen off the archive.org addy):
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And so it is. Why did this ever get dropped?

ParentheticalThought 05-02-2006 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sombre winds
And so it is. Why did this ever get dropped?
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RESTORE THE GROUCH!

sombre winds 05-04-2006 07:33 AM
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Maybe Charlie or one of the other officials can move this to the other side so it doesn't disappear and reappear.

Heliphyneau 05-04-2006 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sombre winds
Maybe Charlie or one of the other officials can move this to the other side so it doesn't disappear and reappear.
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I sent a PM a little while ago asking that very thing. Hopefully it'll happen.

:xo:

Needs Wasabi 05-06-2006 04:57 AM
________________________________________It was moved!

Molly! 05-07-2006 04:53 AM
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terrific!

:heart:

now it's practically a permanent fixture.

meepmeep 08-10-2006 08:03 AM
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woah
eepee posted here. i remember her. she gave me an 'elliott' gift in portland a couple of years ago. wonder where she's at now.

scottie 08-27-2006 03:55 AM
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this should be a little higher in the forum.

Molly! 08-28-2006 11:32 PM
________________________________________and now, it is.
:xo:

jinp6301 12-12-2006 12:42 AM
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wow, i just read this whole thread straight

it gives me chills

and where the heck is this thread located?

Needs Wasabi 12-12-2006 12:50 AM
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It's gone. It went in the great board crash of '02.

I think you can find it cached on the internet though. I don't know where.

jinp6301 12-12-2006 02:07 AM
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it came back up on the memorial forum

wierd

jamie lee 12-12-2006 04:09 AM
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i still think it needs to be stickied. :heart:

space girl lost 03-11-2007 04:49 PM
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BUUUUUUMP!!

can we PLEASE sticky this?

Starsailor 03-11-2007 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by we.are.clouds (Post 2203636)
It's gone. It went in the great board crash of '02.

I think you can find it cached on the internet though. I don't know where.

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You can find it through archive.org's Wayback Machine.

But yes, it DEFINITELY should be stickied. No one wants this to get lost again.

snowballinhell 03-12-2007 11:56 PM
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wow.. i just discovered this..
how was it determined to be elliott for certain, anyone know?

weird.. it puts me right back to my insomnia problems while trying to get off of the same tranquilizer.. clonopin.. ug! poor elliott.. i can sure relate.. at least he seemed in a pretty good mood all things considering.. (apologizing for being a little blue/grouchy.. smiley..:\ wonder which smiley?)

how cool he graced the board..
ghost

space girl lost 03-13-2007 12:03 AM
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regarding the little blue grouch... check about 17 posts prior. thereabouts.

snowballinhell 03-13-2007 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by space girl lost (Post 2267329)
regarding the little blue grouch... check about 17 posts prior. thereabouts.
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thanks!
i stopped reading at like page 4..
img181.imageshack.us/img181/9...egrouchjs8.gif
duly added to my collection at cootieland..
ghost

sombre winds 03-13-2007 05:25 AM
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It was Elliott. Charlie confirmed it. That tranquilizer was responsible for some of his memory problems with songs that left him sounding out of it at some shows. I also mentioned in another thread emailing him that night and it was clear from his response that it was Elliott. Although I never doubted it was him to begin with.

snowballinhell 03-13-2007 07:57 PM
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It was Elliott. Charlie confirmed it. That tranquilizer was responsible for some of his memory problems with songs that left him sounding out of it at some shows. I also mentioned in another thread emailing him that night and it was clear from his response that it was Elliott. Although I never doubted it was him to begin with.
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i can absolutely understand the trouble with the clonopin..
i was unconscious half the time while on it and withdrawls were terrible..
plus when you are depressed you often take more than you should.. i did this with xanax as well.. with the same kind of effects.. numb self-destructiveness and foggy memory/thinking.. man..

at least he came to the board and that makes you think he musta read probably times when he didn't post.. i know he sounds a little edgy in some of the comments, i think it's only natural that sensitive people develop that kind of edge to keep others' hurtful offhand comments from getting to them.. i've got the same sharp edges even though i'm a friendly ghost so i get that..

you emailed him? i woulda been too chicken!!
ghost

sombre winds 03-14-2007 08:08 AM
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Those first posts were funny and he was in a good mood in spite of his insomnia. One was the don't be afraid of my long hair thread. I can't remember the other one from the same night. He was quick and witty. People didn't believe it was Elliott (I think because he was so playful.) Such a contrast to the reports from his performance the following day.

He definitely did read the board at times when he didn't post.

snowballinhell 03-14-2007 06:14 PM
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that's so cool..
img140.imageshack.us/img140/1...egrouchuu7.gif
and we definitely should bring back his little blue grouch..
ghost

Molly! 03-14-2007 09:41 PM
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Those first posts were funny and he was in a good mood in spite of his insomnia. One was the don't be afraid of my long hair thread. I can't remember the other one from the same night. He was quick and witty. People didn't believe it was Elliott (I think because he was so playful.) Such a contrast to the reports from his performance the following day.

He definitely did read the board at times when he didn't post.
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Didn't he make a "don't be afraid of my posts..." thread or something? Yes, that's the one that most of these posts came from.

sombre winds 03-15-2007 01:56 AM
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I think one was hair and the other was something about not being afraid of the blue smilie. I don't remember a don't be afraid of my posts.
He also answered someone's question about what to read on a long plane flight.

Molly! 03-15-2007 02:12 AM
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don't be scared of my posts...

sombre winds 03-15-2007 02:19 AM
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don't be scared of my posts...
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Thanks. He had a great sense of humor didn't he?

Needs Wasabi 03-15-2007 02:44 AM
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...Elliott posted like this too......

...cool...

Molly! 03-15-2007 03:49 AM
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Yes, Rae, he really did. :lol:
I love the post where he's contemplating the differences between img181.imageshack.us/img181/9...egrouchjs8.gif and :evil:.

I prefer the green skeptical fellow, too, myself.

recordrunning 03-15-2007 10:07 AM
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don't be scared of my posts...
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Wow, that was weird. :lol:

homemadealliance 04-12-2007 04:20 AM
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wow reading those made me feel closer to him, and then suddenly terribly sad.
he was a sweetly funny guy though. oh elliott.

i miss you.

space girl lost 04-25-2007 01:30 PM
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this was posted over in the main forum and i was reminded of it once again. i don't know if it was ever confirmed to be him, but what the hell... i'll stick it here for safe-keeping.

[Deck PSU...?

Elliott Smith
- 25th Nov 2002 16:57
After repairing my right-side (deck/transport) power supply, it then was dropped, and the plastic "rails" or slotted holders for the 4 heat sink edges broke apart, well really fractured.
Does anyone know what kind of plastic that is, or know where replacement ones could be found? Any info would be great...I'm toward the beginning of a long trip into techland (which I like).
thanks,
Elliott Smith]

space girl lost 05-28-2007 04:35 PM
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bumping back up as it fell off the board into the abyss again.

consisting 06-12-2007 09:21 PM
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web.archive.org/web/200112301...8&t=000505&p=2

Page 2 of the thread "don't be scared of my long hair... ", his post is as follows, i put what he said in bold.

(h)helliott
Member

posted December 18, 2001 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by giantsteps:

let's hear it for long hair!
(i've been letting mine grow out...it takes forever...arrgh...i'm at that "just long enough to look messy, but not long enough to look cool" stage)

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Churchill: "...if you're going through hell, keep going..." right on!

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GeorgiaGeorgia 06-30-2007 05:37 AM
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I really don't think that was him, does anyone have a compelling argument for why that isn't just a fake?

GeorgiaGeorgia 06-30-2007 05:48 AM
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I don't not believe it was him because of what was said, it's just he said he never even read his own reviews for example, so why would he go chat online with his fans and post about his hair? i guess we'll never know for sure

sombre winds 06-30-2007 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaGeorgia (Post 2378419)
I don't not believe it was him because of what was said, it's just he said he never even read his own reviews for example, so why would he go chat online with his fans and post about his hair? i guess we'll never know for sure
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We do know for sure. It was definitely Elliott. We know that for several reasons. One reason is that Charlie said it was Elliott and Charlie had been in email contact with Elliott and Valerie and then Jennifer. He wasn't "talking about his hair"- he was kidding around.

The night he started those 2 threads was after his San Francisco performance in 2001. He couldn't sleep and came on late at night and had fun with people.

Elliott made other posts such as commenting on the arrows in people's hats.

Most people faking Elliott would have acted very differently. One of the reasons so few people believed it was Elliott at the time was that he was funny and clever and didn't act depressed at all. A fake would have acted more like the Elliott in that girl's fake story about meeting Elliott.

(Also the blether was Valerie and Elliott's sister plus Elliott used that as well.)

Guest 07-01-2007 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaGeorgia (Post 2378419)
I don't not believe it was him because of what was said, it's just he said he never even read his own reviews for example, so why would he go chat online with his fans and post about his hair? i guess we'll never know for sure
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he was an eager review reader, actually

Summergirllv 07-06-2007 06:11 AM
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aren't we all

perhaps we don't even know what (if anything) to think of ourselves

consisting 08-07-2007 01:17 AM
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consisting 10-14-2007 07:44 AM
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lost cause 10-15-2007 04:26 AM
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A bump for appreciation of your diligent bumping.

robot hand 10-20-2007 03:18 AM
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anti 10-20-2007 04:28 AM
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i personally think that the "scared of my posts" thread might just the greatest thread in the history of sweet addy ...

i love it that we share some of the same writing quirks ... now i can only aspire to be nearly as witty ... his rant about the blue grouch still makes me giggle, and ive read it a million times.

makes me kick myself for not hunting down sweet addy sooner than i did ... and the arguments over whether or not it was him are just priceless .... can't you just see him slumped in front of the computer in the middle of the night (like weve all done before), reading the arguments for why he wasn't, well, him and getting a great chuckle out of it. :yes: i just love it, every word of it, i've heard there were other threads that the wayback didn't catch ... i'd loveeeeee to find copies of them floating around someday.

if only, if only ...

pokey 10-21-2007 06:57 AM
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and I bump because this is one of those threads I usually can post in without trouble argument or misunderstanding
also, bump for redundancy

DrHibbert 10-22-2007 03:00 PM
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and I bump because this is one of those threads I usually can post in without trouble argument or misunderstanding
also, bump for redundancy
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What are you talking about!? I don't think it's redundant at ALL. That's it, this thread is going to hell.

:cow:

pokey 10-22-2007 03:21 PM
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Dillon 10-24-2007 11:36 PM
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I must be a wimp; I almost cried when I read his old posts. Even so, it was nice to see such a playful and normal side of him. He was really a great guy.

:xo:

Saskia 11-23-2007 06:29 PM
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don't be scared of my posts...
don`t be scared of my long hair...

hey you guys,
i know i step by very little and i think i never posted (i`m the reading type y`know?) but i was wondering if anyone would be so sweet to put up or send the hair/post thread again... the webarchieve doesn't work for me. i drives me crazy!

love,
saskia

consisting 01-11-2008 12:45 AM
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Beanhead 01-11-2008 01:35 AM
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"perfection is not my ideal. it's an insult to the gods."

I like Elliott Smith.

ilovemusic 03-10-2008 01:00 AM
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i'm really missing Elliott today.
Listening to songs like Waltz #2 "I'm never gonna know you now, but i'm gonna love you anyhow". So true.

Listening to Heatmiser songs too, You Gotta Move "Your just below Dallas town..." i keep thinking about his life and him growing up and stuff.
I can only read about him in the books i have on him, and how i will never know or meet him, but i'm gonna love him anyhow.

It kills me that i'll never meet or see him, all i have i have is his music. his wonderful, wonderful music.
And even his music is making me more depressed because i am thinking of all this.

i just had to get those words out of me to people who understand.

tomislav 05-24-2008 03:52 PM
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bump?

reading those were sweet. yay for wayback machine.

Freud's assistant 06-19-2008 06:48 AM
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hoz 07-09-2008 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovemusic (Post 2626907)
i'm really missing Elliott today.
Listening to songs like Waltz #2 "I'm never gonna know you now, but i'm gonna love you anyhow". So true.

Listening to Heatmiser songs too, You Gotta Move "Your just below Dallas town..." i keep thinking about his life and him growing up and stuff.
I can only read about him in the books i have on him, and how i will never know or meet him, but i'm gonna love him anyhow.

It kills me that i'll never meet or see him, all i have i have is his music. his wonderful, wonderful music.
And even his music is making me more depressed because i am thinking of all this.

i just had to get those words out of me to people who understand.
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I completely understand you mate. I wasn't even a fan while he was alive, I never had the chance to see him, wait for the release of a new album, or anything like that. I dunno what to say that you haven't.

People really need to look here more often.
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this needdss to be stickied
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It definitely does.

dead melodies 11-02-2008 04:44 AM
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lisangeles 11-15-2008 08:25 PM
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"perfection is not my ideal. it's an insult to the gods."

I like Elliott Smith.
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This is a recurring theme of Elliot's, isn't it. He also said, between songs at a show, (sunset junction? I should verify this) "Fucking up is part of it man" I think he wanted humans to be compassionate about ourselves when it comes to imperfection and failure.

I just discovered this thread and find it both eery and comforting- "The Apocryphal Postings of Elliott Smith". And I love how Woody never doubted it was him. Woody, you're the hero of this story for never doubting.

I also love flipsgurl for posting "why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near" and how great was his response to finish the lyric? I like to think he could take in the love that people, even strangers feel for him. He appears on the board and all the shy forest creatures want to say hello like he's Snow White on a walk through the woods.

Just joined the forum and am loving it. So much to explore.

Alex.s 12-02-2008 02:45 PM
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wow, just read through this whole thread and it gave me goosbumps. Feel quite sad now

WrongBefore 03-09-2009 07:21 PM
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Angilbeth 07-02-2009 02:46 PM
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Not all the links will work

but still.... check these out

don't be scared of my posts...

don't be scared of my long hair...

:cow:
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The first link still works :love:

Hummingbird 07-02-2009 02:56 PM
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...but enough about drugs. I myself prefer the green, skeptical fellow. Not as grouchy, just a little unsure about the validity of this...questions, questions, hmmm...yes, well. He, or maybe she, is more like it, yes, I say, what-what.
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:therock:

Angilbeth 07-02-2009 03:04 PM
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That's the green one I thought he was referring to also... my fav as well. My mom always did the one eyebrow raise when we were kids, and I have the inherited ability as well. Although mine tends to pop up on it's own during normal conversation

circuitrider87 07-02-2009 08:15 PM
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I hope this thread never disappears.

Liebenik 08-27-2009 08:22 PM
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Man, I love this thread. I've saved a lot of stuff from it.

Just in case.

:xo:

muriel 08-27-2009 09:56 PM
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the elliott was FUNNY too thread has a lot of save-worthy items in it too. just in case you haven't made it there yet

i go back to that thread a lot these days

tashatasha 08-27-2009 10:47 PM
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This is awesome. Thanks for bumping it. I feel like I need to get a new laptop for Elliott things only. I could sit here all day right clicking and saving things Elliott related.

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