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Post by fingersdrippingink on Aug 30, 2009 15:22:31 GMT -5
Hey folks.
From what I read before, I believe it's about $240/year to keep SweetAddy running on vBulletin. Blamonet's done with us. Aaron wants to transfer domain ownership to someone else - it will probably cost somewhere between $35 and $100 per year.
It's a matter of getting some people together. I don't want to see SA go down. We've all got out own reasons but with a little cooperation I think we could make this work. I'm waiting for a response from Keen to see what steps have to be taken.
What do you think?
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Post by TheKeenGuy on Aug 30, 2009 15:57:25 GMT -5
Hey! I'm not any more in the know about how to handle an archive/domain name transfer than anyone else.
I do think that this is probably the best solution if there were people willing to put down money on it... and if it was done through a donation system, I would strongly encourage that the donation totals be totally transparent.
Also, the decision about who would handle the new site would be an important one, because we would want to make sure it's someone who has a permanent investment in maintaining the site, and who won't let it lapse for any reason.
Along with that, there would be discussion about whether to run that site in conjunction with this one, with two different approaches to moderating, or whether this site would simply be written off as a redundancy.
But keep in mind, there are those who specifically wish for sweetaddy to remain at Blamo, and this proposal runs counter to that. It's really about what Aaron would prefer in the end.
So there's some points for discussion.
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Post by This Bear Is Dead on Aug 30, 2009 16:12:31 GMT -5
Only if we get to pick who is mod and who isn't. IE theKeenGuy gets absolutely NO POWER.
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Post by Mandy on Aug 30, 2009 16:18:16 GMT -5
In all honesty... when we were all exiled yesterday, I was kind of given the impression that we were no longer welcome at Blamo. And I guess I feel like... why would I want to stay in a place where I'm not welcome?
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Post by Reckoner on Aug 30, 2009 16:29:57 GMT -5
In all honesty... when we were all exiled yesterday, I was kind of given the impression that we were no longer welcome at Blamo. And I guess I feel like... why would I want to stay in a place where I'm not welcome? I agree  |
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Post by ethan(ethanethanethan) on Aug 30, 2009 16:32:52 GMT -5
I am in favor of something along the lines of Patrick's idea. Have the exact same system we have here with a vBulletin service. We would be separate from blamo and independently run. We could also have our own sweetaddy.com URL back. Not to mention all our old data transferred from blamo along with all the old features we know and love. It'd be a new revamped sweetaddy. It'd feel like home but also fix any old problems and be run by people invested in the Elliott community.
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Post by Mandy on Aug 30, 2009 16:36:27 GMT -5
I'm definitely in favor of that.
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Post by ethan(ethanethanethan) on Aug 30, 2009 16:39:50 GMT -5
In all honesty... when we were all exiled yesterday, I was kind of given the impression that we were no longer welcome at Blamo. And I guess I feel like... why would I want to stay in a place where I'm not welcome? It's more complicated than that. Aaron is a very nice guy and would love to have us, but it is a hobby for him to run blamo, and once the line is crossed and it's no longer fun, he's going to cut that part off. He owes us nothing and we owe him immensely, especially since the vast majority of addiers are not paid subscribers. Blamonet was started as a companion forum to Aaron's Smashing Pumpkins website and it only serves as the home for sweet addy as a favor for Charlie. Charlie was given administrator privileges so he could properly run his corner of blamonet, and Aaron could run the parts that were really his. Aaron never set out to run Sweet Adeline and thats what it came to. He is perfectly within his rights to cut it off when it becomes too much for him. |
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Post by Mandy on Aug 30, 2009 16:45:01 GMT -5
I understand all of that. He has no obligation to host us, so why should he? At this point, it makes little sense to stay there.
But the location isn't important to me. I'll go wherever the people go, because that's what matters. I'm just saying... after all of this, I don't really feel like Addy is a welcome addition to the Blamo family. Running it independently makes more sense to me, but that's only my opinion.
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Post by leclisse on Aug 30, 2009 16:49:29 GMT -5
Aaron was initially talking about making Ethan temporary mod of the old board, but now he's wanting to make him mod of "Hell", which I think is the stupidest idea on earth.
This is tantamount to a board split, in my opinion.
I'm really feeling bummed out about this.
Ethan, I hope that you don't agree to anything like this.
It's a split, just dressed up as something else.
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Post by TheKeenGuy on Aug 30, 2009 16:55:49 GMT -5
Aaron just vetoed the idea of a board transfer.
Right now, he's discussing the option of keeping the board open. If he decided not to, we would need to archive material ourselves, and maybe we could talk him into a transfer simply of the "sweetaddy.com" domain name.
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Post by seadragon on Aug 30, 2009 16:57:10 GMT -5
I think maybe someone needs to clarify with Aaron what he's saying because that's not how I read it. I read it that he's suggesting Ethan be the addy board mod with similar powers to those Charlie had, thus letting him take a back seat.
Then there was the suggestion that he could make hell a bit more hospitable for those who don't want to abide by the addy rules so much. I don't see where the idea of Ethan being a mod of 'hell' came from?
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Post by Angilbeth on Aug 30, 2009 16:57:30 GMT -5
Never did Aaron say anything about making Ethan a mod in Hell Leclisse... He said he'd be willing to make Ethan the Admin of Sweet Addy, and that people needed to keep the inappropriate, non-censored stuff in Hell once he removed the music and falling heads.
Listen, I'm sorry, but I really need to say something here. Aaron is willing to give us a chance to save the Addy we know and love. But it's going to be deleted if everyone (especially you Leclisse) doesn't calm the fuck down and stop demanding things of Aaron. As Ethan said, he owes us nothing and we owe him everything. This is no longer a situation where we get to ask things of him, and we are certainly in no place to demand anything. That needs to end now.
Aaron has also said moving the SA stuff to a vBulletin account will NEVER happen. He is not willing to give up the private info he has on servers, so you can kiss that option goodbye.
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Post by leclisse on Aug 30, 2009 17:10:52 GMT -5
I think maybe someone needs to clarify with Aaron what he's saying because that's not how I read it. I read it that he's suggesting Ethan be the addy board mod with similar powers to those Charlie had, thus letting him take a back seat. Then there was the suggestion that he could make hell a bit more hospitable for those who don't want to abide by the addy rules so much. I don't see where the idea of Ethan being a mod of 'hell' came from? Read the thread... I swear, that's what he said in it. . |
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Post by ajmo on Aug 30, 2009 17:14:42 GMT -5
for me, like many other occasional people i am sure, it is a case of waiting it out here for a month and seeing what happens, and whether all the madness, that has never been interesting or cute or whatever is the reason people frequent forums is - dies down. most board devoted to one thing i have seen end up going through the same process of self loathing and subordination. this is why i think this forum of a primarily 'subject' related forum, followed by another forum for the lollygaggers, random posters (hi!), poets, bedwetters, rippling english jason schwartzmann look a likes, and cat ladies can hang out and watch traffic with 3 legged dogs.
alternatively, let the two be one, and not expect the subject and founding founding principles to be upheld forever, history may not change, but everything else will. except maybe not some art or something (donny hand me words or whip the back of my head with a rolled newspaper). and i wouldn't call swede daddy art. maybe sue or one leg peg or jack o' trades or bruce grobbellar.
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Post by Mandy on Aug 30, 2009 17:24:48 GMT -5
Wow, people really didn't like what I said, eh?  I apologize, I meant no disrespect to anyone. I appreciate all that Aaron has done for us, and recognize this is not an easy position for him to be in. |
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Post by consisting on Aug 30, 2009 17:40:01 GMT -5
Wow, people really didn't like what I said, eh? I apologize, I meant no disrespect to anyone. I appreciate all that Aaron has done for us, and recognize this is not an easy position for him to be in. I dont think you said anything wrong. I think it's pretty obvious that Aaron does not want to have to deal with sweetaddy, he continually implies this. He is open to keeping the board up if he doesn't have to be involved, that kind of makes it clear that he doesn't want to have to manage it or do much with the board. I don't blame the guy, and I completely understand his position. It's not any negative judgement against him or his actions, it just doesn't fit with his life and where he is or where he wants to be. He can't or just doesn't want to take it on personally. Nothing wrong with that. We've all been in situations where we are fine with something until it really starts creeping into our time and personal lives, then we're suddenly like "it's got to go!" |
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Post by Mister Grieves on Aug 30, 2009 17:43:39 GMT -5
I didn't read anyone's posts bit i'll donate a bit if needed to keep swady alive.. I love tihs place
(I'm drunk and listening to bright eyes.. so sue me)
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Post by consisting on Aug 30, 2009 18:39:57 GMT -5
I didn't read anyone's posts bit i'll donate a bit if needed to keep swady alive.. I love tihs place (I'm drunk and listening to bright eyes.. so sue me) lush! lush! |
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Post by mollyyyyy on Aug 30, 2009 18:41:49 GMT -5
Someone over at the old Addy mentioned keeping content on Addy just about Elliott and moving all other off-topic threads to the General Board. That would suck. Until there is a viable solution, I'm staying here.
*sets up camp*
ETA: Well, ethan is awesome and is now mod of sweetaddy so... i guess i'll divide my time.
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Post by freudsassistant on Aug 30, 2009 18:53:59 GMT -5
hmm i want no part of the old addy
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Post by Mister Grieves on Aug 30, 2009 19:33:21 GMT -5
I didn't read anyone's posts bit i'll donate a bit if needed to keep swady alive.. I love tihs place (I'm drunk and listening to bright eyes.. so sue me) lush! lush! I'm wicked lusshhhhhhhh enjoy it! |
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Post by drunkship on Aug 31, 2009 3:28:36 GMT -5
i kinda tend to like this board a bit better. seems bit more friendly at the moment..
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Post by Josh Times Three on Aug 31, 2009 3:58:20 GMT -5
yeah I like this little getaway too. s'nice.
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